I don't even see GB in the final and Belgium are going to get the bronze. Just wait....they have a 2.59 in them and that's all they need.
Which makes me given that Helsinki was so fast, with the Brits in 2.58 down in 4th.
I wonder will Bolt do the 4x4 for JA? Will Danny McFarlane? I'd love either of them to do a leg, of course it probably won't matter after Michael Blackwood drops tha btton for no reason, runs out of his lane, doesn't hear the gun.....in his heat. Surely though, there are no relay mishaps LEFT for that guy to make
Jaack wrote: of course it probably won't matter after Michael Blackwood drops tha btton for no reason, runs out of his lane, doesn't hear the gun.....in his heat. Surely though, there are no relay mishaps LEFT for that guy to make
Has he done the grab a leg and writhe on track trick? Sounds like he is the Jamacian version of Suziann Reid
Will Angelo Taylor be asked to perform in the 4x4 semi/heat, or will he be asked to run the final?.. After his 47.2 I have to believe he will be good for a sub44 middle leg.
As for the brits: Steele leg one in 44.7 Tobin is worth a 45 leg for sure and Rooney can crank a final leg in 43.9. Does anyone know who the other leg is?
Between the brits, Belgium and the Bahamas it is guaranteed that 3:00 must be broken to medal. I suspect that Nigeria Poland and Jamaica will be in the thick of it as well.
paulthefan wrote:Will Angelo Taylor be asked to perform in the 4x4 semi/heat, or will he be asked to run the final?.. After his 47.2 I have to believe he will be good for a sub44 middle leg.
As for the brits: Steele leg one in 44.7 Tobin is worth a 45 leg for sure and Rooney can crank a final leg in 43.9. Does anyone know who the other leg is?
Between the brits, Belgium and the Bahamas it is guaranteed that 3:00 must be broken to medal. I suspect that Nigeria Poland and Jamaica will be in the thick of it as well.
In terms of the Brits, I think Richard Buck would be first choice, and Dale Garland second. I'd guess both will run the heats (Tobin-Garland-Buck-Steele) as it'll be a race off for the final, with Rooney replacing the other one, in the same way I think Kelly and Maz will be doing in the w4x4, with TBO coming in
paulthefan wrote: As for the brits: Steele leg one in 44.7 Tobin is worth a 45 leg for sure and Rooney can crank a final leg in 43.9. Does anyone know who the other leg is?
We don't really have a 4th leg (Dale Garand is anked 17th in Britain this year )
paulthefan wrote: As for the brits: Steele leg one in 44.7 Tobin is worth a 45 leg for sure and Rooney can crank a final leg in 43.9. Does anyone know who the other leg is?
We don't really have a 4th leg (Dale Garand is anked 17th in Britain this year )
I say Christian does 3rd leg!!!
Prob not a bad shout! Just remembered that Bingham guy - he's surely in the mix??
paulthefan wrote: As for the brits: Steele leg one in 44.7 Tobin is worth a 45 leg for sure and Rooney can crank a final leg in 43.9. Does anyone know who the other leg is?
We don't really have a 4th leg (Dale Garand is anked 17th in Britain this year :shock: )
I say Christian does 3rd leg!!!
I second that. I reckon in current form and with a bit of a g up he'd keep them competitive. You just know that Rooney can produce something massive if they're in with a sniff of a medal.
Can't discount the Australians for another minor medal either. Milburn and Wroe are in pb shape. Clinton Hill and Mark Ormrord have both produced some very solid splits in the past, particularly Hill. 3:58.5+ isn't entirely out of the question if they all stand up.
paulthefan wrote:Will Angelo Taylor be asked to perform in the 4x4 semi/heat, or will he be asked to run the final?.. After his 47.2 I have to believe he will be good for a sub44 middle leg.
As for the brits: Steele leg one in 44.7 Tobin is worth a 45 leg for sure and Rooney can crank a final leg in 43.9. Does anyone know who the other leg is?
Between the brits, Belgium and the Bahamas it is guaranteed that 3:00 must be broken to medal. I suspect that Nigeria Poland and Jamaica will be in the thick of it as well.
In terms of the Brits, I think Richard Buck would be first choice, and Dale Garland second. I'd guess both will run the heats (Tobin-Garland-Buck-Steele) as it'll be a race off for the final, with Rooney replacing the other one, in the same way I think Kelly and Maz will be doing in the w4x4, with TBO coming in
Are you INSANE. The Brits can NOT rest Rooney for the heats. With your line up they'd be running (based on SB's) two 46 guys, a 47 guy and a lad that ran 45.8 in his last race! They'll be last.
Buck and Tobin have had shoddy seasons but I believe they can split quality legs again...and TBH, even if they don't- there really isn't anyone else.
I'd go with Steel-Buck-Tobin-Rooney heat -and if they are lucky enought to make the final...then the same again. Are you forgetting that every team here has ran 2'02 at least just to qualify? Most of them have done it this year. You rest Rooney and there won't be a final, it's as simple as that!
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paulthefan wrote:Will Angelo Taylor be asked to perform in the 4x4 semi/heat, or will he be asked to run the final?.. After his 47.2 I have to believe he will be good for a sub44 middle leg.
As for the brits: Steele leg one in 44.7 Tobin is worth a 45 leg for sure and Rooney can crank a final leg in 43.9. Does anyone know who the other leg is?
Between the brits, Belgium and the Bahamas it is guaranteed that 3:00 must be broken to medal. I suspect that Nigeria Poland and Jamaica will be in the thick of it as well.
In terms of the Brits, I think Richard Buck would be first choice, and Dale Garland second. I'd guess both will run the heats (Tobin-Garland-Buck-Steele) as it'll be a race off for the final, with Rooney replacing the other one, in the same way I think Kelly and Maz will be doing in the w4x4, with TBO coming in
Are you INSANE. The Brits can NOT rest Rooney for the heats. With your line up they'd be running (based on SB's) two 46 guys, a 47 guy and a lad that ran 45.8 in his last race! They'll be last.
Buck and Tobin have had shoddy seasons but I believe they can split quality legs again...and TBH, even if they don't- there really isn't anyone else.
I'd go with Steel-Buck-Tobin-Rooney heat -and if they are lucky enought to make the final...then the same again. Are you forgetting that every team here has ran 2'02 at least just to qualify? Most of them have done it this year. You rest Rooney and there won't be a final, it's as simple as that!
Ha ha - agreed, it's not ideal, and I think you're probably right - unless Bingham goes better in a race off, as I think Buck's been slightly injured - may be wrong tho. More wishful thinking on the 'resting Rooney' part
jeremyp wrote:Will/can Jamaica add Bolt to the race? He could run sub 43 easy! Love to see him try it.
They can include anyone already on their overall team, so theoretically, yes
They also don't have the same quality as the women, but not sure how the rest of Jamaican 400m athletes will feel about it
Paul Henry - ideas??
Yeah I see with you. If Bolt runs 40.00 that team might still finsh 5th. The guys ,shame to say, are really at the quality of the Juniors (except for chambers who is just average and couldn't even make the finals). I would be against any use of Bolt in the 4x4s. It would be mainly to show the world what are his limits are and the relay is more than just one athlete. Plus he has a very ginger back wouldn't want to see him overdo himself and wind up laim. The main question to ask is whether they are going to use the old warrior: DANNY with tonnes of intl. 4x4 experience and confidence.
Sorry for a late response was not following the 4x4 chart.
paulthefan wrote:Will Angelo Taylor be asked to perform in the 4x4 semi/heat, or will he be asked to run the final?.. After his 47.2 I have to believe he will be good for a sub44 middle leg.
As for the brits: Steele leg one in 44.7 Tobin is worth a 45 leg for sure and Rooney can crank a final leg in 43.9. Does anyone know who the other leg is?
Between the brits, Belgium and the Bahamas it is guaranteed that 3:00 must be broken to medal. I suspect that Nigeria Poland and Jamaica will be in the thick of it as well.
In terms of the Brits, I think Richard Buck would be first choice, and Dale Garland second. I'd guess both will run the heats (Tobin-Garland-Buck-Steele) as it'll be a race off for the final, with Rooney replacing the other one, in the same way I think Kelly and Maz will be doing in the w4x4, with TBO coming in
The Eurosport commentators just said Mike Rimmer might run in the heats tomorrow!
paulthefan wrote:Will Angelo Taylor be asked to perform in the 4x4 semi/heat, or will he be asked to run the final?.. After his 47.2 I have to believe he will be good for a sub44 middle leg.
As for the brits: Steele leg one in 44.7 Tobin is worth a 45 leg for sure and Rooney can crank a final leg in 43.9. Does anyone know who the other leg is?
Between the brits, Belgium and the Bahamas it is guaranteed that 3:00 must be broken to medal. I suspect that Nigeria Poland and Jamaica will be in the thick of it as well.
In terms of the Brits, I think Richard Buck would be first choice, and Dale Garland second. I'd guess both will run the heats (Tobin-Garland-Buck-Steele) as it'll be a race off for the final, with Rooney replacing the other one, in the same way I think Kelly and Maz will be doing in the w4x4, with TBO coming in
The Eurosport commentators just said Mike Rimmer might run in the heats tomorrow!
You know, I did think about him - but not after that semi!!!!
Neville had a good 400m campaign, but is there no love for Kerron Clement in the 4x400? Got to be in decent flat shape and is the world indoor record holder.
I agree on Wariner. Who knows where his head is at, but maybe he can salvage a little pride on the relay?
On the Brits I agree - run the best team: Steele, Tobin, Bingham, Rooney or there won't be a final. It'd be an interesting experiment to run either Devonish or Malcolm on the 3rd leg to see if they can do a Regis! Either ought to be capable of a 44.5 leg, though maybe not willing!
It's between Australia and Belgium for bronze IMHO, behind USA, then the Bahamas.
Clement has run numerous open and relay 400's this year. Don't think he has been much below 45.0. His training is not as speed oriented as previous years with Mike Holloway when he ran indoor WR and 43r, 19r splits.
USA very impressive and relaxed. Angelo Taylor so relaxed on the anchor and Clement also good on the 3rd? Let's face it, the USA could win the 4x4 even without Wariner and Merritt!
The Britons were so much better than I thought they'd be winning the 2nd (and much easier) semi-final and ran their fastest time for how long? 2:59.33. Wonder if Roger Black's still giving out those gold rings for going sub 3 minutes?
Britain:s 44,4 anchor leg had a 43,8-43,9 in him if needed. He ran conservatively down the stretch, looking back every once-in-a-while to ensure he didn:t exert more energy than needed or get passed on the outside.
44.5 for Bingham? and 45.3 for Tobin, Has Bingham even gone sub 46 in the flat? I think those boys can go low 2'58 and that could be a medal. Wonder if Bingham can replicate tomorrow though!?
Jaack wrote:44.5 for Bingham? and 45.3 for Tobin, Has Bingham even gone sub 46 in the flat? I think those boys can go low 2'58 and that could be a medal. Wonder if Bingham can replicate tomorrow though!?
given that Helsinki was so fast, with the Brits in 2.58 down in 4th.
