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Time To Buy OT Tickets! (Eugene Gets '12 As Well)

Postby gh » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:38 pm

No-no, I mean 2012!

Release now on front page.
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Postby gh » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:39 pm

Webcast started on the Oregon site at 3:30.
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Postby gh » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:25 pm

I don't know if they said anything on the webcast, but the ’10 site will probably be announced shortly as well.
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Postby trig » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:31 pm

We just got back from the press conference. It was pretty exciting. A reporter asked Craig Masback if they would consider making Eugene the permanent site. He answered only in Eugene would someone ask that question when they has just been awarded the 3 meets.
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Postby gh » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:59 pm

Combining this with another thread, here's a post I pulled over (sorry, don't have a way to "meld" two threads)

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Personally think that is a lousy way to promote the sport.>>
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Postby malmo » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:19 pm

Who else bid on the 2012 trials?
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Postby gh » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:37 pm

Corvallis, Springfield and Cottage Grove :-)
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Postby malmo » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:55 pm

gh wrote:Corvallis, Springfield and Cottage Grove :-)


I'm assuming Masback has bank accounts in each of those town?

I haven't heard about the bidding process, whose bids were rejected and why?
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Postby gh » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:01 pm

Not being a USATF kind of guy, I have no idea as to the answer to the elemental question: is there a bidding process required, or can management make these kind of decisions by fiat?

I'm guessing they were well within the parameters of the rules & regulations in making a no-bid assignment, if that's what happened (and I heard nothing about any formal bid process, no)>
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Postby malmo » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:16 pm

Given Masbacks dismal record on abiding by USA Track and Field's own rules, taking USATF to the brink of decertification, do you think that Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom, might be better qualified to determine if irregularities occurred in the process?

Something smells really fishy here.

http://tinyurl.com/2mbzyn

I find it interesting that the editor of Track and Field News knows as much as Sargeant Schultzie about this, even though Tom Jordon is on the payroll? Correct me if I'm wrong?
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Postby gh » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:35 pm

You ignore it whenever anybody tells you you're wrong, so I shan't even try.
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Postby gh » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:06 am

Des Moines Register says (small story on front page) that Drake has the 2010 nationals. Story says, in part <<Officials from the USATF evaluated Drake last month>> so apparently USATF did have at least some elemental sort of selection process working.
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Postby trig » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:19 am

From the ERG "We didn’t actually talk to any other cities,” Masback said. “We believed in what was being proposed and the spirit behind it. ... We awarded the 2004 Trials to Sacramento shortly after the 2000 Trials without any bid process, and Eugene was aware of this. There is no pattern (to the process) and this continues that tradition.”


http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/si ... id=1&fid=1
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Postby Charley Shaffer » Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:40 pm

This means that 4 of the next 5 national championships will be in Eugene, and that is all of the championships that will select national teams for major international championships . . . until at least 2013.

In recent Olympiads, I don't think USATF was able to get a city to bid for a non-trials year (2002 & 2006) without also giving them one of the adjacent "trials" years.

Eugene is the Track Capital and Hayward Field is the Track Capitol. I hope that the editor approves of my spelling here. :)
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Postby TrackCEO » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:50 pm

I wrote to a muckymuck in Sacramento, asking if Sacto had been in the mix for 2012 Trials and other nationals, and the honcho replied:

Never heard anything about the formal bids for 2009-10-11 U.S. Outdoor Championships which we submitted on the Aug. 30 deadline. Smelled a funny odor when we never received any response and when they failed to follow through on the process.

Never was a RFP submitted on the Trials and not sure we would have bid knowing the games that have been going on between Eugene, Beaverton and Indy. Funny USATF would award this to Nike (whoops) Eugene before staging the '08 Trials - it must have been a hell of a deal they couldn't refuse?


We'll know for sure when we try to enter Hayward Field and they ban anyone wearing adidas.

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Postby Al in NYC » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:47 am

Probably fine decision for the sport as contested on the field, but yet another absolutely terrible decision for the public/media visibility of the sport and its future. USATF comes off looking and acting minor league - and short-sighted and "small thinking" and like a capriciously run fiefdom - yet again.
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Postby trig » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:02 pm

How did the muckymuck in Sacramento feel when they got the 2004 trials without a bid?

"We awarded the 2004 Trials to Sacramento shortly after the 2000 Trials without any bid process" Craig masback
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Postby Charley Shaffer » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:56 pm

You're right, trig. I recall that during the bidding for the 2000 Trials, one of the requirements was an air-conditioned press box. Hayward Field didn't qualify. Now ask the guys who sit in the press box if the one at Hornet Stadium is air-conditioned (it isn't). Hmmm . . .

I remember donor Alex Spanos standing up during the 2000 Trials and promising to do something about the lack of shade in the stands before the 2004 Trials.

Sac State is now free to make improvements to their football stadium without any worries about dust, dirt, sightlines, restrooms, shade, or their track which has tighter turns than the IAAF recommended international standard. Fat chance that they were ever going to fix any of these things anyway.

If Sacramento cares so much about T&F, why can't I find any article or column about losing the Trials in today's Bee? The City of Sacramento can bid to host some bowling tournaments; they'll be just as happy with that.
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Postby gh » Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:16 pm

I'm thinking that perhaps the loudest cheer I heard at the whole '00 OT was when Spanos announced from the infield that there would be a roof in '04. Oops!
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Postby fastrunnerz » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:51 pm

Here is a link to the video of the press conference in Eugene:
Part 1:
http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?do=view&video_id=779

Part 2:
http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?do=view&video_id=778
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Postby gh » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:26 am

not sure how long it has been sitting there, but without any fanfare, I see that the OT schedule w/ times attached is now posted:

http://www.usatf.org/events/2008/Olympi ... hedule.asp
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Postby Pego » Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:32 pm

Does anybody know when are the tickets to OT 2008 going to be mailed?
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Postby tafnut » Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:27 pm

gh wrote:I see that the OT schedule w/ times attached is now posted:

since I'll be in town that day anyway, I thought maybe I go see this -
Sunday, July 6, 2008
3:40 Pole Vault women final
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Postby gh » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:15 am

Best part about the schedule is that only four nights are co-opted from being able to enjoy a good deconstruction of the day's events over a leisurely meal.

(And for the wilder crowd, sleeping into noon just about every day works!)
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