Prep indoor sprint hurdles records broken Dutch v. Hembrough

[bushop]

Joshua Hembrough, of Forest Hills Northern High School, Michigan (2007), ran the 60m 42" hurdles at the Clemson Opener. He ran a 7.85 prelim and 7.87 final and slipped in a 60m in 7.03.

60m 42" hurdles . . . 7.85 and 7.87
60m . . . 7.03

The way I read it, that would improve on Jermaine Cooper’s (Giddings, TX) national high school record of 7.95 from 1999.

links:

results...
Clemson Opener

records...
HIGH SCHOOL RECORDS, HIGH SCHOOL BOYS

Can anyone confirm this?

[tafnut]

That is correct says Jack Shepard's 'High School Track 2006'.

And the best mark I can find for him for 2006 is a 13.82. Sounds like he should be lowering that by a lot!!

Can he join this august company sub-13.40?

13.26+ Arthur Blake 84
13.30 Chris Nelloms 90
13.32 Ricardo Moody 99
13.34 *Terrence Trammell 96
13.38a Jason Richardson 04
13.39 *Kevin Craddock 04

[paulthefan]

hey that is the kid that is hearing impaired.. what a wonderful story.

[harvtrack]

The kid is a real talent! Being a high school senior and already signing with Purdue, wonder how he came to run at Clemson this past weekend?

[bushop]

Joshua Hembrough, of Forest Hills Northern High School, Michigan (2007), ran the 55m 42" hurdles in 7.37 seconds at Grand Valley State University (Dec 15).

Men 55 Meter 42" Hurdles
Preliminaries ... 7.37
Finals ... 7.39

GVSU Holiday Open RESULTS

[tafnut]

Which equals the HSR (set at 60y = 54.86m) - set by what great NFL running back?

[bushop]

Which equals the HSR (set at 60y = 54.86m) - set by what great NFL running back?

Does the 7.37 count as a record?

I'd like to see our local paper give Josh some coverage and they need accuate information. The Grand Rapids Press makes a real effort to cover XC and T&F and try to get things right.

[tafnut]

Does the 7.37 count as a record?

Since 55m is 6" longer than 60y, this could be the new 55mH record, since there is a .01 or .02 second difference.

[michtrack]

A great trivia question that isn't.

The well-known running back went to USC. The Cass Tech hurdler who set the 7.37 record for 60yHH (running it three times in the same day!) went to UCLA, and had a fairly undistinguished college track career (13.74/13.64w). He never played football that I know of.

[gh]

Yes, Marcus Allen the footballer had his frosh season at USC in '78, several months before the other Allen did the HS hurdling.

[tafnut]

Yes, Marcus Allen the footballer had his frosh season at USC in '78, several months before the other Allen did the HS hurdling.

Oops!

[bad hammy]

That is correct says Jack Shepard's 'High School Track 2006'.

And the best mark I can find for him for 2006 is a 13.82. Sounds like he should be lowering that by a lot!!

Can he join this august company sub-13.40?

13.26+ Arthur Blake 84
13.30 Chris Nelloms 90
13.32 Ricardo Moody 99
13.34 *Terrence Trammell 96
13.38a Jason Richardson 04
13.39 *Kevin Craddock 04

That's a tall order, but I'm wishing him the best. That list reminds me that I wish Craddock had had a senior season. That could have been something . . .

[paulthefan]

That's a tall order, but I'm wishing him the best. That list reminds me that I wish Craddock had had a senior season. That could have been something . . .

Same here, he does certainly look the part, a very big strong kid... and he is a great judge of character:

Hembrough said his favorite athlete is Allen Johnson, a four-time world champion in the 110m hurdles and the 1996 Olympic gold medalist. “I’ve seen him on TV,” added Josh. “He’s got the American record and he seems like a great guy.”

[tafnut]

More on this guy in an excellent profile by Steve Underwood at Dyestat:

http://www.dyestat.com/?pg=usHembroughFeature



Some of the explanation for his breakout performances:

Now an imposing 6’6” and 220 pounds, Josh has been working hard ever since his outdoor campaign ended last spring. He worked out 5 or 6 days a week in the summer and fall, typically doing leg and/or arm weights on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. On Tuesdays and Thursdays, he usually ran sprint workouts and worked his hurdles. “I have improved a lot on strength and speed, as well in technique,” he says. I grew over the summer and, with help from weight-lifting, I gained 10 pounds of muscle.”

also:

Josh is deaf and uses a cochlear implant (described as a “funky, iPod kind of thing”) to receive just enough sound to hear starters’ commands (as long as they’re clearly and loudly spoken) and to aid in daily life along with reading lips.

What a great story!

[bad hammy]

What a great story!

Definitely. Thanks for the insights . . .

[tandfman]

That is correct says Jack Shepard's 'High School Track 2006'.

And the best mark I can find for him for 2006 is a 13.82. Sounds like he should be lowering that by a lot!!

Can he join this august company sub-13.40?

13.26+ Arthur Blake 84
13.30 Chris Nelloms 90
13.32 Ricardo Moody 99
13.34 *Terrence Trammell 96
13.38a Jason Richardson 04
13.39 *Kevin Craddock 04

That's a tall order, but I'm wishing him the best. That list reminds me that I wish Craddock had had a senior season. That could have been something . . .

What that list reminds me of is how disappointed I was that Ricardo Moody never did much beyond high school. I saw him at the High School Nationals in Raleigh and thought he was the most promising high school 110m hurdler I'd seen since Nehemiah. He never came close to realizing what I thought was his potential.

[Bruce Kritzler]

Haven't seen a nice double-arm lead like his, since Rod Milburn?

[tafnut]

Haven't seen a nice double-arm lead like his, since Rod Milburn?

It's hard to tell from that angle, but I doubt it is a double-arm. All of Wilbur Ross's descendents (most Amis, with the notable exception of Greg Foster, who like Colin Jackson, kept his non-lead arm back) kept their non-lead arm at their hip, pushing down off the hurdle to decrease air-time.

[Riff80]

That is correct says Jack Shepard's 'High School Track 2006'.

And the best mark I can find for him for 2006 is a 13.82. Sounds like he should be lowering that by a lot!!

Can he join this august company sub-13.40?

13.26+ Arthur Blake 84
13.30 Chris Nelloms 90
13.32 Ricardo Moody 99
13.34 *Terrence Trammell 96
13.38a Jason Richardson 04
13.39 *Kevin Craddock 04

That's a tall order, but I'm wishing him the best. That list reminds me that I wish Craddock had had a senior season. That could have been something . . .

What that list reminds me of is how disappointed I was that Ricardo Moody never did much beyond high school. I saw him at the High School Nationals in Raleigh and thought he was the most promising high school 110m hurdler I'd seen since Nehemiah. He never came close to realizing what I thought was his potential.

Does Michigan still have that crazy high school rule about only being able to travel 300 miles or so outside the state to compete. If they do that could hurt his chances on getting in high quality races to break the records. Also I don't recall too many outdoor high school meets in Michigan that have FAT with wind readings. I haven't looked at this in a long time for the state, but hopefully they have come up to date now.

[bushop]

Joshua Hembrough, of Forest Hills Northern High School, Michigan (2007), ran the 55m 42" hurdles in 7.30 seconds at Grand Valley State University (Jan 12).

Men 55 42" Meter Hurdles
Preliminaries ... 7.39
Finals ... 7.30

Mike Lints - Laker Challenge RESULTS

This betters his 55 42" Meter Hurdle time of 7.37 from Dec 15.

note: tommorrow (Jan 13) Josh will be racing the 55m 39" hurdles at Grand Valley State University ....

... any predictions?

[paulthefan]

With his size and strength, he looks like a prime candidate for a national HS record at the 60mH (42)...Regarding the HS height 39s those records are very very strong with many talented kids running them over the years... He might get close to the 39in record at 55m but that is all. Conversely while we lament the fact that many fast HS hurdlers dont progress in college, it may be the case that the 39s give the illusion of so many having what it takes to progress...

[bushop]

With his size and strength, he looks like a prime candidate for a national HS record at the 60mH (42)...Regarding the HS height 39s those records are very very strong with many talented kids running them over the years. I think he will get close to the 39in record at 55m but that is all. Conversely while we lament the fact that many fast HS hurdlers dont progress in college, it may be the case that the 39s give the illusion of so many having what it takes to progress, ...

I think he broke the 60m 42" hurdle record with his 7.85 at the Clemson Opener on Dec 01. He ran a 7.85 prelim and 7.87 final. Jermaine Cooper (Giddings, TX) is listed as the national high school record holder with a 7.95 from 1999.

[tandfman]

I think he broke the 60m 42" hurdle record with his 7.85 at the Clemson Opener on Dec 01. He ran a 7.85 prelim and 7.87 final. Jermaine Cooper (Giddings, TX) is listed as the national high school record holder with a 7.95 from 1999.

This is where the thread started and, like tafnut, I believe you were, and are, correct.

[bushop]

I think he broke the 60m 42" hurdle record with his 7.85 at the Clemson Opener on Dec 01. He ran a 7.85 prelim and 7.87 final. Jermaine Cooper (Giddings, TX) is listed as the national high school record holder with a 7.95 from 1999.

This is where the thread started and, like tafnut, I believe you were, and are, correct.

There is some question if the GVSU environmental systems resulted in a wind-aided performance.

[tandfman]

There is some question if the GVSU environmental systems resulted in a wind-aided performance.

Indoors?

[tafnut]

There is some question if the GVSU environmental systems resulted in a wind-aided performance.

Indoors?

I believe that bushop is in his leg-pulling mode - cf. his other threads.

[bushop]

There is some question if the GVSU environmental systems resulted in a wind-aided performance.

Indoors?

I believe that bushop is in his leg-pulling mode - cf. his other threads.

Yes ... I was being goofy and I cannot seem to figure out how the internets work right.

[bushop]

Joshua Hembrough, of Forest Hills Northern High School, Michigan (2007), ran the 55m 39" hurdles in 7.15 seconds at Grand Valley State University (Jan 13).

Boys 55 Meter sprint
Prelims ... 6.65
Finals ... 6.58

Boys 55 Meter 39" Hurdles
Prelims ... 7.21
Finals ... 7.15

Grand Valley State University HS meet

BTW. Mary Angell (Byron Center HS 2007) had a nice 2.5 foot shot put PB with a 44-02.

[bushop]

Joshua Hembrough, of Forest Hills Northern High School, Michigan (2007), ran the 60m 39" hurdles in 7.87 seconds at University of Michigan ( Jan 18 ).

Boys 60 Meter 39" Hurdles
heats only ... 7.87

University of Michigan HS meet

Also in the race: Shane Wells (Romulus HS 2007) .... 7.92

[bushop]

Joshua Hembrough, of Forest Hills Northern High School, Michigan (2007)

55m sprint . . . 6.47 (Jan 20)
60m sprint . . . 7.03 (Dec 01)
200m dash . . . 22.31 (Jan 20)

55m 39" hurdles . . . 7.15 (Jan 13)
55m 42" hurdles . . . 7.30 (Jan 18)

60m 39" hurdles . . . 7.87 (Jan 18)
60m 42" hurdles . . . 7.85 (Dec 01)

[bad hammy]

At 60m he's faster at the 42" than the 39" - interesting.

[tafnut]

At 60m he's faster at the 42" than the 39" - interesting.

illogical - looking at the data upon which you make that assumption,

55m sprint . . . 6.58
60m sprint . . . 7.03

55m 39" hurdles . . . 7.15
55m 42" hurdles . . . 7.30

60m 39" hurdles . . . 7.87
60m 42" hurdles . . . 7.85

do we also assume that it takes him .72 seconds to travel the last 5 meters of the 39-inchers, but only .55 to travel the same distance over the 42-inchers? There are other factors here (and they are obvious).

[bad hammy]

Just the facts, ma'am . . .

[George P.]

These are all extremely short races. And this young person is, by definition, inexperienced. Couldn't significant differences in reaction time at the start account for some of these apparent inconsistencies? Or a stumble or knicked huddle here or there in one race that doesn't happen in the other? Just wondering.

[tafnut]

just wondering.

Wonder no more. Every hurdle race is created different. With a data set of just two times, you have no ability to make significant comparisons.

[bushop]

Dominique “Johnny” Dutch of Clayton High School, North Carolina (2007)

Boys 55 Meter 39" Hurdles .... 7.07

Breaks Deworski Odom's 55H mark of 7.08 (1995).

[bushop]

Joshua Hembrough of Forest Hills Northern High School, Michigan (2007)

55m sprint. . . 6.47 ( Jan 20 )
60m sprint . . . 6.97 ( Feb 01 )
200m dash . . . 22.31 ( Jan 20 )

55m 39" hurdles . . . 7.15 ( Jan 13 )
55m 42" hurdles . . . 7.30 ( Jan 18 )

60m 39" hurdles . . . 7.80 ( Feb 01 )
60m 42" hurdles . . . 7.85 ( Dec 01 )

[bushop]

Eastern Michigan Univ. MITS 2 - 2/1/2007

Men 60 Meter Dash
Preliminaries
6 Hembrough, Josh ....... 7.08q
Final
3 Hembrough, Josh ....... 6.97

Men 60 Meter Hurdles
Preliminaries
1 Hembrough, Josh ....... 7.80q
Final
1 Hembrough, Josh ....... 7.83

[Mennisco]

Any guy who's 6-6 can hardly be getting going at such a short [60m] distance......his last 5 hurdles outdoors should be fascinating to watch. And like other have already said, what a great story! Wonder if he's gonna tackle the 300 barriers outdoors, or like Jason Richardson maybe try the one lap event too?

[paulthefan]

how does a kid 6'6" run a 60m race in under 7.00 and yet he runs a 22.3 200m.. unless that track is a real dog of a tight turn... that is weird..

The 110s outdoors are difficult for any sized body.. I dont think the 6'6" will be a big advantage there.. he may end up being stiffled like so many others that size that try to make it in this tough event..... there is just no solution.. you just cant run like your body wants to with those barriers in the way... he will get down in the 13.3s easy enough... but then the details and training and more details get tougher and tougher as you try to shave off a 1/10th here and a 1/10th there, ... being 6'6" doesnt change any of that...

now in the 400mH , 10 years ago I would have said a kid 6'6" was tailor made for that event.. but then a couple of guys 5'9 and under have shown what the little guys can do there too. So all bets are off and the big men have to work like everyone else just to have a shot.