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BALCO Web Should Be Sticky for Jones and Bonds

Postby accelerator » Tue May 16, 2006 10:43 pm

New York Times seems to be paying close attention to the Track and Field News message board. Quite Interesting.

http://select.nytimes.com/2006/05/17/sp ... oref=login
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Postby EPelle » Tue May 16, 2006 11:19 pm

" To continue reading this article, you must be a subscriber to TimesSelect. "
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Re: BALCO Web Should Be Sticky for Jones and Bonds

Postby SQUACKEE » Wed May 17, 2006 3:00 am

accelerator wrote:New York Times seems to be paying close attention to the Track and Field News message board. Quite Interesting.

http://select.nytimes.com/2006/05/17/sp ... oref=login


Have you PM'ed Tafnut yet with your facts and evidence like i requested?
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Postby tandfman » Wed May 17, 2006 3:05 am

Wow! Accelerator, guru, jammin and tafnut mentioned by name (or at least by handle). Hey, guys. It's your 15 minutes of fame. Enjoy it!

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Re: BALCO Web Should Be Sticky for Jones and Bonds

Postby guru » Wed May 17, 2006 3:06 am

accelerator wrote:New York Times seems to be paying close attention to the Track and Field News message board. Quite Interesting.



Well it's a good thing I'm around to keep the facts straight from the personal vendettas.
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Postby guru » Wed May 17, 2006 3:26 am

Snippet from the article:

"Her unlikely victory in Xalapa left some dubious, others joyous and many ambivalent. On a track-and-field Web site, where runners, coaches, officials and even Victor Conte are known to chat under aliases, the message board lit up under the title, "She's b-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ck!!!!!"

"You act like there is no evidence against Marion," someone named accelerator wrote on trackandfieldnews.com.

A writer named guru replied, "Put up or shut up."

The back and forth continued for pages, where negative nabobs were met with sunny optimists, where suspicious minds were greeted with rationalized responses.

"She is packing on the muscles," jammin wrote. "Makes you wonder."

Tafnut posted: "This is such a sad thing to say. If anything, she is SMALLER than she was — her muscles stand out because she has obviously lost weight." "
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Postby MJD » Wed May 17, 2006 3:48 am

Probably a bit beyond fair usage but I note that tafnut got TFN into the NYT. I'll have to bump this thread thread everytime someone slams him for posting too much. When was the last some of you other geniuses got quoted in the NYT? Just asking.
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Postby tafnut » Wed May 17, 2006 3:55 am

Thanks for the 'snippet', guru; I was registered for the NYT, but obviously they've upped the ante to "Times-select" (oooooh) and you have to be an actual subscriber to read their archives.

I've always wondered how many and who lurks here. I guess bh is not allowed to tell us how many seperate IPs look at the boards daily.

Now we're up there with letsrun, when they got quoted in SI. Woo-hoo.

Viva la T&FNMB!
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Postby bhall » Wed May 17, 2006 4:27 am

FYI- TFNMBers were quoted in the same SI article letsrun was.

See http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discus ... php?t=9746
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Postby polevaultpower » Wed May 17, 2006 5:14 am

Did the NYT ask T&FN if they could use content from this site?

I don't know how I would feel if a newspaper used material from my site without actually putting the name of my website in the article.
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Postby tafnut » Wed May 17, 2006 5:32 am

polevaultpower wrote:Did the NYT ask T&FN if they could use content from this site?
I don't know how I would feel if a newspaper used material from my site without actually putting the name of my website in the article.


they did:

"You act like there is no evidence against Marion," someone named accelerator wrote on trackandfieldnews.com.
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Postby polevaultpower » Wed May 17, 2006 5:46 am

Ah, I didn't read close enough :oops:
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Postby piaba » Wed May 17, 2006 7:50 am

can someone post the entire column????
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Postby EPelle » Wed May 17, 2006 7:52 am

No. You:ll have to sign up (fair usage vs copyright).
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Postby Daisy » Wed May 17, 2006 7:58 am

piaba wrote:can someone post the entire column????

You can sign up for a free trial at NYTimes. Anyone posting the full version will be in breach of copyright not to mention we know the're watchin'.
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Postby piaba » Wed May 17, 2006 8:05 am

only subscribers can access the columnists.
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Postby accelerator » Wed May 17, 2006 8:08 am

It seems as though the picture posted here has turned out to be worth more than a thousand words. Apparently, someone saw it before it was very quickly deleted.
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Postby tafnut » Wed May 17, 2006 8:12 am

accelerator wrote:It seems as though the picture posted here has turned out to be worth more than a thousand words. Apparently, someone saw it before it was very quickly deleted.


Link us to the pic, accelerator.
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Postby accelerator » Wed May 17, 2006 8:23 am

Sorry, I recently posted a link to a picture of Marion that simply said "A picture is worth a thousand words" and nothing else and it was immediately deleted. Wonder why? I didn't think it was X-rated, but apparently someone with power here made a determination that it was. Oh, well.
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Postby Daisy » Wed May 17, 2006 8:25 am

piaba wrote:only subscribers can access the columnists.

No, there is a 14 day free trial to be a TimesSelect user (as opposed to the regular membership which is always free). See the red circled link in the photo below (That is a screen shot of what you should see when you click on the link).
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Postby SQUACKEE » Wed May 17, 2006 8:27 am

accelerator wrote:Sorry, I recently posted a link to a picture of Marion that simply said "A picture is worth a thousand words" and nothing else and it was immediately deleted. Wonder why? I didn't think it was X-rated, but apparently someone with power here made a determination that it was. Oh, well.


Who cares about a picture when your gonna PM Tafnut with all your evidence, im so excited i can hardly wait!
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Postby tafnut » Wed May 17, 2006 8:31 am

SQUACKEE wrote:
accelerator wrote:Sorry, I recently posted a link to a picture of Marion that simply said "A picture is worth a thousand words" and nothing else and it was immediately deleted. Wonder why? I didn't think it was X-rated, but apparently someone with power here made a determination that it was. Oh, well.


Who cares about a picture when your gonna PM Tafnut with all your evidence, im so excited i can hardly wait!


I'm ready to go to the Dark Side, accelerator. PM me. I shall repudiate all my support of MJ as soon as I get it! I'll make millions blowing the whistle on her. Hurry, I've got bills to pay!
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Postby accelerator » Wed May 17, 2006 8:37 am

Do you mean the Real side?
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Postby tafnut » Wed May 17, 2006 8:42 am

accelerator wrote:Do you mean the Real side?


oh yes, my bad, the Real Side!
Please hurry, baby needs a new pair of shoes!
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Postby gh » Wed May 17, 2006 8:49 am

accelerator wrote:Sorry, I recently posted a link to a picture of Marion that simply said "A picture is worth a thousand words" and nothing else and it was immediately deleted. Wonder why? I didn't think it was X-rated, but apparently someone with power here made a determination that it was. Oh, well.


Because it had nothing to do with anything but malicious drug-rumoring, which is verboten. And unfortunately that's about all you bring to this Board; keep it up and you're gone.
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Postby gh » Wed May 17, 2006 8:50 am

polevaultpower wrote:Did the NYT ask T&FN if they could use content from this site?

I don't know how I would feel if a newspaper used material from my site without actually putting the name of my website in the article.


They didn't ask, but as pointed out, they cited source, so didn't have to. On the other hand, given NYT's reputation for stickling accuracy, I'm surprised they'd offer at face value that Victor Conte posts here under another name. That's a "fact" not in evidence.
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Postby Daisy » Wed May 17, 2006 8:54 am

gh wrote:I'm surprised they'd offer at face value that Victor Conte posts here under another name. That's a "fact" not in evidence.
Or did she confirm this from Conte?
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Postby helene288 » Wed May 17, 2006 9:08 am

Wake up people! Marion Jones is a drug cheat! In reality who cares? We have these freaks running the country and you guys are concerned whether Marion Jones is getting gh or drops of the clear put under her tongue.

Buy todays times and bypass this article and read Maureen Dowd and Thomas Friedman, important stuff that you should know about instead of all of this escapist fantasy bs.

You know I had some wisdom teeth pulled and they gave me some Percoset for the pain. Stuff works great. Why wouldn't I take it?

Despite my handle I'm a guy. Forty one years old. When I was in my mid thirties I was somewhat stressed out and my testosterone level was on the low normal side. I had another problem, had to go to a urologist, and the doc was more than happy to prescribe some androgel from unimed. Comes in a little package like suntan lotion. Rub it on your shoulder and lo and behold, muscles in less than a month. People at work see me with clothes on asking if I was working out..Yes, a lot of 12oz. curls Lmao. Wake up,,these elite athletes are freaks anyway.

Drugs work, ever notice that the answer to every problem when you go to the doctor is a prescription? There's more sales reps in the office than patients. :shock:
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Postby tafnut » Wed May 17, 2006 9:13 am

helene288 wrote:you guys are concerned whether Marion Jones is getting gh or drops of the clear put under her tongue.


oh dear - I had NO idea!
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Postby eldrick » Wed May 17, 2006 9:16 am

helene288 wrote:Wake up people! Marion Jones is a drug cheat! In reality who cares? We have these freaks running the country and you guys are concerned whether Marion Jones is getting gh or drops of the clear put under her tongue.

Buy todays times and bypass this article and read Maureen Dowd and Thomas Friedman, important stuff that you should know about instead of all of this escapist fantasy bs.

You know I had some wisdom teeth pulled and they gave me some Percoset for the pain. Stuff works great. Why wouldn't I take it?

Despite my handle I'm a guy. Forty one years old. When I was in my mid thirties I was somewhat stressed out and my testosterone level was on the low normal side. I had another problem, had to go to a urologist, and the doc was more than happy to prescribe some androgel from unimed. Comes in a little package like suntan lotion. Rub it on your shoulder and lo and behold, muscles in less than a month. People at work see me with clothes on asking if I was working out..Yes, a lot of 12oz. curls Lmao. Wake up,,these elite athletes are freaks anyway.

Drugs work, ever notice that the answer to every problem when you go to the doctor is a prescription? There's more sales reps in the office than patients. :shock:


& i assume your doc told you the price you pay for your muscles is that your balls woud shrink to the size of peanuts ?
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Postby SQUACKEE » Wed May 17, 2006 9:29 am

helene288 wrote:Wake up people! Marion Jones is a drug cheat! In reality who cares? We have these freaks running the country and you guys are concerned whether Marion Jones is getting gh or drops of the clear put under her tongue.

Buy todays times and bypass this article and read Maureen Dowd and Thomas Friedman, important stuff that you should know about instead of all of this escapist fantasy bs.

You know I had some wisdom teeth pulled and they gave me some Percoset for the pain. Stuff works great. Why wouldn't I take it?

Despite my handle I'm a guy. Forty one years old. When I was in my mid thirties I was somewhat stressed out and my testosterone level was on the low normal side. I had another problem, had to go to a urologist, and the doc was more than happy to prescribe some androgel from unimed. Comes in a little package like suntan lotion. Rub it on your shoulder and lo and behold, muscles in less than a month. People at work see me with clothes on asking if I was working out..Yes, a lot of 12oz. curls Lmao. Wake up,,these elite athletes are freaks anyway.

Drugs work, ever notice that the answer to every problem when you go to the doctor is a prescription? There's more sales reps in the office than patients. :shock:


EGGS-ZACTY My dentist gave me novocaine so i reasoned, hell why not become a crack whore and that just what i did and dont regret a secound of it!
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Postby helene288 » Wed May 17, 2006 9:54 am

Scwackee,, you're overreacting!

Nut, Don't understand your fanaticism but if you enjoy t and f, very well.

To other poster re gonad size. You have a headache you take two aspirin. Not the whole bottle. Low hemoglobin or rbc count EPO. Used correctly as the esteemed and now convicted Dr. Ferrari states, it is no more dangerous than orange juice. LOL. A little topical T won't kill you. Now, shots in the gluteal area every day could be a different story. Plus that sciatic nerve can get in the way, ouch. You do realize that these guys taking this stuff have many times the normal amount of hormones circulating throughout their systems. Topical might not even be detectable if it is not above the wide range considered normal, and believe me, a little increase makes a tremendous difference.

As for the size of that part of my anatomy, well within normal range. Marbles? LMAO.
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Postby SQUACKEE » Wed May 17, 2006 9:58 am

Scwackee,, you're overreacting!

I know, i know! Gotta go, got a "client ".
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Postby eldrick » Wed May 17, 2006 10:01 am

i'm afaid the dose you woud have to apply to get the muscles will also be at the level to shrink your nuts to... peanuts

& for "not more dangerous than orange juice ?"

only a moron woud come up with that - you risk liver cancer,exacerbation of previously undiagnosed prostate cancer, etc
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Postby abinferno » Wed May 17, 2006 10:04 am

eldrick wrote:i'm afaid the dose you woud have to apply to get the muscles will also be at the level to shrink your nuts to... peanuts

& for "not more dangerous than orange juice ?"

only a moron woud come up with that - you risk liver cancer,exacerbation of previously undiagnosed prostate cancer, etc


Side effects are still somewhat of a problem. However, the designer steroids out there greatly minimize the androgenic and other adverse side effects. These athletes also have their doping routines monitored by physicians. The drugs available combined with disciplined schedules make most of the side effects negligible.
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