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gh
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 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:55 am Post subject: the top Olympic tourist |
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somebody asked in the Cordner Nelson remembrance if he had been to the most Olympics.
There's a guy named Harry R. Nelson (no relation) from Southern California who did LA in '32, missed '36 but has been to all Games since, for a total of 17. He's 87, plans on being in London. |
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mump boy
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: the top Olympic tourist |
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| gh wrote: | somebody asked in the Cordner Nelson remembrance if he had been to the most Olympics.
There's a guy named Harry R. Nelson (no relation) from Southern California who did LA in '32, missed '36 but has been to all Games since, for a total of 17. He's 87, plans on being in London. |
OMG i love him  |
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bad hammy
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Bet he is kind of sorry he missed '36!
I've been to zero OGs, so am tied for the lead in the other direction. |
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Conor Dary
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| bad hammy wrote: | Bet he is kind of sorry he missed '36!
I've been to zero OGs, so am tied for the lead in the other direction. |
Maybe....But I doubt Germany in 1936 would have been all that fun to visit. |
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gh
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If you weren't Jewish (and that's a caveat with huge implications, of course), I suspect the average tourist would have found Germany in '36 a just fine place to visit. They certainly staged the most spectacular Games ever seen.
The atmosphere in Moscow in '80 was probably 10x worse for a Westerner. |
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Conor Dary
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I didn't mean it would be dangerous, but it must have been a very unpleasant atmosphere for a visitor.
Victor Klemperer's diaries I Will Bear Witness writes during that period of some of the horrors going on and how odious he found the Olympics.
Meanwhile the Spanish Civil War was going on.... And there were rumblings of possible war between the Soviet Union and Germany.. |
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gh
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| Klemperer was the son of a rabbi. His writings rightfully expose the terrible life of an oppressed (to the max) minority. At the risk of sounding like a Nazi-symp, that doesn't necessarily reflect how the general populace or visitors would have felt. It's terribly easy to rewrite history through the lens of atrocities yet to come. |
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| gh wrote: | | Klemperer was the son of a rabbi. His writings rightfully expose the terrible life of an oppressed (to the max) minority. At the risk of sounding like a Nazi-symp, that doesn't necessarily reflect how the general populace or visitors would have felt. It's terribly easy to rewrite history through the lens of atrocities yet to come. |
Rewriting history? Yea, right.
This is from the New York Times in 1933.
A.A.U. Boycotts 1936 Olympics Because of the Nazi Ban on Jews; Governing Body of American Sport Calls on American Olympic Association to Take Like Stand at Meeting Tomorrow -- Pledge Against Discrimination Said to Be Violated.
By ARTHUR J. DALEY.
November 21, 1933, Tuesday
PITTSBURGH, Nov. 20 -- The Amateur Athletic Union of the United States, the largest sportsgoverning body in the world, voted almost unanimously today to boycott the 1936 Olympic Games at Berlin unless there is a change in the attitude of the Hitler government toward Jews in sport.
Or this also from 1933:
PROPOSAL TO SHIFT OLYMPICS GROWING; Distinct Move Is Afoot Among International Delegates to Cancel Berlin Award.
By The Associated Press.
June 4, 1933, Sunday
Section: SPORTS, Page S1,
VIENNA, June 3 -- As delegates to the International Olympic Committee meeting, scheduled for next week, gathered today, there was a distinct movement afoot to cancel the award of the 1936 games to Berlin because of the anti-Semitic movement there.
Such a shame to miss a wonderful propaganda opportunity. |
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