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¶m50K Walk: Alex Schwazer (Italy) 3:37:09

Postby gh » Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:29 am

1. Denis Nizhegorodov (Russia)
2. Alex Schwazer (Italy)
3. Erik Tysse (Norway)
4. Yohann Diniz (France)
5. Trond Nymark (Norway)
6. Mikel Odriozola (Spain)
7. Horacio Nava (Mexico)
8. Sergey Kirdyapkin (Russia)
9. Tianfeng Si (China)
10. Jesús Sánchez (Mexico)
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Postby EPelle » Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:47 am

2004 Result:

Robert Korzeniowski, POL, 3.38.46; Denis Nizhegorodov, RUS, 3.42.50; Aleksey Voyevodin, RUS, 3.43.34.
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Diniz overtraining?

Postby Quick Silver » Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:08 pm

"Depuis le 17 mai, je n’ai pas pris un jour de repos. Ma plus petite semaine en volume était de 200 km. Ma prochaine journée de repos, ça sera le dimanche après ma course."

A quote from Diniz on Cybermarcheur. Doesn't sound good to me.

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Postby Flumpy » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:12 am

Me neither :?: :?: :?
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Postby marndar » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:56 pm

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... d=93773028

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this already. I heard this NPR report on the 50K race walk the other day. Apparently they were going to make the walkers walk on a granite surface that the competitors complained would cause stress fractures. The Beijing Olympic organizers didn't want to change the course but they did eventually cave in and spent 800,000 dollars to fix the course.
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Postby Jaack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:05 pm

Diniz and Schawrzer seemed to have had a pre race plan. They went out together, shared drinks...and were realled in after 25 minutes. Schwarzer was lifting for about 15 minutes and managed to avoid a warning.

Diniz is now out the back door.

Plenty of paddles being shown, but neither the viewers nor the walkers seem to know who is getting them!

ETA...and now Diniz has regrouped and got himself back on the group. The Russian favourite is far more technically sound than his female counterpart! Thank heavens.
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Postby Jaack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:14 pm

Nizhegorodov turning the screw now, it's down to seven...with two Australians-Tallent and Rutter (they look great, particularly Rutter), Schwarzer, a Chinese and DIniz (just) sticking with him.

Only 3 hours to go! :lol:
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Postby Jaack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:17 pm

10k is 44.39.... :shock: inside WR. The first 5k was well outside Wr, so that is a bit shocking!

21.49 for the second 5k :!:
Rutter is doing remarkably well to be on this pace.
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Postby Jaack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:20 pm

Bo, the Chinese guy....well, I hate to moan :lol: but...I mean c'mon, he's in second, and it's the most BLATANT lifting of the week. :roll: :roll: :roll: :evil:
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Postby gh » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:21 pm

Jaack wrote:.....
Plenty of paddles being shown, but neither the viewers nor the walkers seem to know who is getting them!
....


Amazingly, for the first time in many a year at a WC/OG, neither the resident result-data computer nor the host TV feed are showing any kind of charting. Not surprising that commentators aren't saying anything on the subject (just as we were mute in the stadium yesterday for the w20).
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Postby Jaack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:23 pm

gh wrote:
Jaack wrote:.....
Plenty of paddles being shown, but neither the viewers nor the walkers seem to know who is getting them!
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Amazingly, for the first time in many a year at a WC/OG, neither the resident result-data computer nor the host TV feed are showing any kind of charting. Not surprising that commentators aren't saying anything on the subject (just as we were mute in the stadium yesterday for the w20).
Don't talk to me about the farce of yesterday....that wonderful display of lovely lifting from the gun, for the first 40 minutes of the race from the Russian, get's the gap...and clicks into a somewhat clean technique. :evil: I don't blame her for doing it, since she was getting away with it, but it's an Olympic games and NO ONE was able to warn her!? :(

Schwarzer calling on the official to warn the Chinese in front of him!? :?:
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Postby Jaack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:32 pm

Rutter stops for at least 1 minute to tie his shoe :? Taking a breather?

It's down to 4, Nizhegorodov, The Chinese (BO?) who is still lifting :!: , Schwarzer and Tallent. :shock: Tallent in for another medal...early days, but.....
In all seriousness, Tallent is the only one who is definitely not lifting.
Nizhegorodov and Schwarzer are cutting it very close. Bo doesn't even lock his knees :lol: :oops:
ETA:
Oh Good god, I'm knocking this off....GUESS who just got a paddle after I just wrote the above?Tallent! :twisted: :twisted:
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Postby Jaack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:40 pm

AT freaking last, a paddle for Bo. WHy did that take so long :evil:
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Warnings

Postby Quick Silver » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:45 pm

Recall that

- a paddle for Tallent means he's LEGAL, but in danger of bending
- any judge who's already shown Li a paddle can't show him another for the same thing
- any judge who's given Li a red card can no longer judge him at all

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Re: Warnings

Postby Jaack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:51 pm

Quick Silver wrote:Recall that

- a paddle for Tallent means he's LEGAL, but in danger of bending
- any judge who's already shown Li a paddle can't show him another for the same thing
- any judge who's given Li a red card can no longer judge him at all

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A paddle is a paddle, you get three and you're out! :!:And if he gets a red he's out.... Although I have seen red carders go on to finish, they are always DQ'd on results! Have you had different experiences?
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Postby Powell » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:52 pm

Jaack wrote:10k is 44.39.... :shock: inside WR. The first 5k was well outside Wr, so that is a bit shocking!


44:39 is 3:43 pace - that's nowhere remotely near WR pace.
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Postby Jaack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:56 pm

Powell wrote:
Jaack wrote:10k is 44.39.... :shock: inside WR. The first 5k was well outside Wr, so that is a bit shocking!


44:39 is 3:43 pace - that's nowhere remotely near WR pace.

Reasearch is your friend! :P


Schwarzer given a warning.

Just gotten a caption, but none of the leaders are credited with a white flag!

So, can you get a warning that isn't a warning? Is it just misadministration?

Major champs are just so inconsistent with their warning system!
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Postby Powell » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:12 pm

Jaack wrote:
Powell wrote:44:39 is 3:43 pace - that's nowhere remotely near WR pace.

It was Eurosports call, I think they meant it was ahead of the WR split at that point?


OK, I just checked this, and it's true Nizhegorodov only had a 44:47 at that point when he set the WR, but saying they are on WR pace is still misleading. If they continue at the pace they're going, they will not be close.
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Postby Powell » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:19 pm

Jaack wrote:So, can you get a warning that isn't a warning? Is it just misadministration?

Major champs are just so inconsistent with their warning system!


You can get a warning that's JUST a warning and that doesn't have any real significance. Or you can get a DQ proposal from one of the judges - if you get three of those, you are DQed.
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Postby Jaack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:20 pm

Powell wrote:
Jaack wrote:
Powell wrote:44:39 is 3:43 pace - that's nowhere remotely near WR pace.

I think they meant it was ahead of the WR split at that point?


OK, I just checked this, and it's true Nizhegorodov only had a 44:47 at that point when he set the WR, but saying they are on WR pace is still misleading. If they continue at the pace they're going, they will not be close.
Oh for goodness sake, talk about picky! Nizhegorodov was on his own WR pace, what more do you want! :oops: :P

He's actually off the lead group now, seems to be going through a bad patch!
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Postby Jaack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:21 pm

Powell wrote:
Jaack wrote:So, can you get a warning that isn't a warning? Is it just misadministration?

Major champs are just so inconsistent with their warning system!


You can get a warning that's JUST a warning and that doesn't have any real significance. Or you can get a DQ proposal from one of the judges - if you get three of those, you are DQed.
This is what is killing me, we use two different paddles for warning and a proposal. And the warning is generally verbal.
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Postby Powell » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:24 pm

It's not being picky.
They have picked up the pace significantly since the 10k mark, but if you were just comparing the splits to the WR race, you'd have to say they have slipped outside WR pace, which makes it sound as if the pace is slipping.

1:49:00 at halfway for the top four - that's 3:38 pace now.
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Postby Jaack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:28 pm

Powell wrote:It's not being picky.
They have picked up the pace significantly since the 10k mark, but if you were just comparing the splits to the WR race, you'd have to say they have slipped outside WR pace, which makes it sound as if the pace is slipping.

1:49:00 at halfway for the top four - that's 3:38 pace now.
This is pointless, but WR pace can only ever be, under or on the targets achieved during the world record. :!:

Ego, at 10k, I was perfectly correct to say....they are on WR pace. As they were ahead of the 10k split achieved during that record! :?

It's 3am towards the end of the Olympics, I'm watching blatant lifting go un noticed and I'm crankier than ever.... :lol: :lol:
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Postby Powell » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:32 pm

Diniz has been walking in fifth place, first behind the lead group, for a long time now, but he's still not losing much ground on the top 4. Still only 27 secs behind at 25k.

Kirdyapkin totally off the pace. Nymark nearly 5 minutes behind the leaders at halfway and Garcia 4:18 behind.
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Postby Jaack » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:41 pm

Awww :( Diniz stopped, knocked off his watch...and walked towards the barrier. Then fought with himself and started to walk again...first VERY slowly and then picked up the pace agin! He IS n 5th...and they DO have warnings up ahead. This could turn into some story!
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Postby Powell » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:44 pm

Diniz once again going at a good pace, but he's now 1:48 behind the leaders.
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Postby Jnathletics » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:44 pm

30km
2:10:38 Tallent AUS
Schwazer ITA
Nizhegorodov RUS
Li J CHN

+1:48 Diniz FRA
+2:50 Sudol POL
+2:51 Yamazaki JPN
+3:33 Sanchez MEX

2:15:30 leaders in single file with Tallent leading

Sudol and Yamazaki are catching Diniz.
Diniz has stopped as he is passed holding his hamstring.

Diniz jumped the fence and walked off. Kind of funny as a judge tried to chase him down.

36 1311 CAN BERRETT Tim 2:21:40 +11:02.00 @ 30km
Dunn USA hasn't made it that far yet. Still in the race according to NBC.

44 3163 USA DUNN Phillip 2:29:10 +18:32.00 @ 30km

Schwazer now leading top 4 (2:30:30 into race)

Leaders 2:32:39 at 35km

+3:13 Sudol POL (2:35:53)
+3:14 Yamazaki JPN

At 35km #1311 BERRETT (CAN) is 36th; Result: 2:46:50 (+14:11.00)
44th #3163 USA DUNN Phillip 2:54:05 +21:26.00

Sudol now has a small gap on Yamazaki (5-10m?)

Chinese being dropped by front 3.

Tallent AUS back in the lead and Schwazer at the back starting to show signs of fatigue.

Tallent just used a slower walker to box Nizhegorodov in and make a small move but all three are back together. Slower walkers may play a part in the race.

Chinese walker no longer in sight of leaders at turn around. Unless DQ comes up, I think we have the medallists.

40km 2:54:36 for lead 3
4th Li J Chn +1:58
5th +3:56 Sudol POL
6th +4:21 Yamazaki JPN
+4:55 Adams AUS
+5:00 Garcia ESP
+5:20 Nava MEX
+5:43 Tysse NOR

At 40km #1311 BERRETT (CAN) is 36th; Result: 3:12:57 (+18:21.00)

Shows how much I know, Schwazer now making a move 3:05:30 only the Russian able to stay with him.

Tallent now 20m back

Schwazer now gapping Nizhegorodov

Schwazer
+10 Nizhegorodov
+14 Tallent

Schwazer flexing biceps?
Tallent caught up to Nizhegorodov, also showed Niz has 2 warnings.

45km Schwazer 3:15:57
Tallent 3:16:37 (+40)
Nizhegorodov (+41)

Tallent starting to gap Niz (10m) +3 sec

4 1611 ESP GARCIA Jesus Angel 3:21:52 +5:55.00
5 2220 JPN YAMAZAKI Yuki 3:22:17 +6:20.00
6 2531 NOR TYSSE Erik 3:22:26 +6:29.00
7 2614 POL SUDOL Grzegorz 3:22:28 +6:31.00
8 2433 MEX NAVA Horacio 3:22:32 +6:35.00

Boy has the 4-8 changed.

9 1064 AUS ADAMS Luke 3:23:18 +7:21.00
10 1381 CHN LI Jianbo 3:24:21 +8:24.00
11 2580 POL FEDACZYNSKI Rafal 3:24:43 +8:46.00
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Postby Powell » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:55 pm

Diniz stopped again, but then resumed walking one more time. He's now close to losing the 5th place - Grzegorz Sudol and Yuki Yamazaki are just behind him.
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Postby Powell » Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:56 pm

Diniz drops out.
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Postby Powell » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:10 pm

Did anyone expect Tallent to do so well here? A medal in the 20k and now he could be picking up another one. He hasn't been anywhere nearly as good until now.
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Postby Powell » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:30 pm

Li had a major crisis - he's being overtaken by multiple lapped runners. 1:58 behind at 40k.
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Li

Postby Quick Silver » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:36 pm

Li looks pretty much legal at this pace, but it's a disgrace that he's still on the course at all.

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Postby Powell » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:45 pm

Tallent caught up with Nizhegorodov, but Schwazer is pulling away fast. Nizhegorodov has 2 warnings now, so he better be careful.
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Postby Powell » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:59 pm

Li lost 6:26 between 40 and 45k :shock:

Rafal Fedaczynski is now going faster than anyone except Schwazer and is up into 11th place. Jesus Angel Garcia, as usual, paced himself well, and is now 4th, perhaps still secretly hoping one of the top 3 gets DQed...
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Postby Jnathletics » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:59 pm

Bell Lap!!!

3:27:00 for Schwazer
3:28:20 Tallent
3:28:55 Niz


Schwazer enters stadium

3:37:09 OR!!!!

Tallent next to enter stadium

3:39:27

Nizhegorodov RUS
3:40:14
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