I'll bet some of the others in that event are now going to Eugene thinking that they're competing for one open spot on the team. And they may be right.
I'll bet some of the others in that event are now going to Eugene thinking that they're competing for one open spot on the team. And they may be right.
With all due deference to one of my favorite people in the sport (Stacy), to award anybody an automatic spot on the team after a good performance in a no-pressure, perfect conditions (and all-comers atmosphere) meet seems a bit over the top.
I never dreamed she'd jump this high again. Good for her, this is a fantastic comeback. And I was completely wrong in thinking her career was done...
marlow - feel free to post anything you like about Thomas HJing 2.50m or how the Euro football coaches don't know what they're doing. You know, the normal rubbish you post. You have a 48 hour grace period to post what you like without comeback from me on these subjects....
I'll bet some of the others in that event are now going to Eugene thinking that they're competing for one open spot on the team. And they may be right.
I don't think too many people are _that_ intimidated by Stacy anymore, even after a 4.70 jump.
Great for the sport though! I am glad to see the women stepping it up. Jillian Schwartz jumped 15'6 in Jonesboro (I believe at an outdoor meet) a week ago. Looks like it should be a little tougher to make the team this year.
After Dragila popped a 4.55 (also at Chula Vista), I said to self, self, Stacy may make the damn team. Of course, since I hit the road for Etown Wed AM, I won't have to put my money where my mouth is (metphorial money, TFN contest). On the other hand, not too many US vaulters (or for that matter, world vaulters) can do that (4.70) on the day. I will pull for her to make the team, cause I like her (in the abstract) altho, I don't fixate on her like Pat BTW, cool Calvin & Hobbes graphic, Mr M 8)
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4.70 on the Age-Graded Tables is equivalent to an Open (20-30) mark of 5.32 (17-5 1/2). Needless to say, Stacy also raised her own W35 age-grop world record.
A guys 6.0....nice...this is about Stacy. Sweden has Annika, we have Stacy.
EPelle wrote:I expected to see a blurb (or result) on Walker:s 6,00m jump somewhere here, as the headline suggests. A terrific weekend result for both.
Jack Slocombe wrote:A guys 6.0....nice...this is about Stacy. Sweden has Annika, we have Stacy.
EPelle wrote:I expected to see a blurb (or result) on Walker:s 6,00m jump somewhere here, as the headline suggests. A terrific weekend result for both.
Jack Slocombe wrote:A guys 6.0....nice...this is about Stacy. Sweden has Annika, we have Stacy.
EPelle wrote:I expected to see a blurb (or result) on Walker:s 6,00m jump somewhere here, as the headline suggests. A terrific weekend result for both.
LOL - you guys have Annika
She just lives here....tax reasons and weather. Inside she is a always a Swede.
Jack Slocombe wrote:A guys 6.0....nice...this is about Stacy. Sweden has Annika, we have Stacy.
EPelle wrote:I expected to see a blurb (or result) on Walker:s 6,00m jump somewhere here, as the headline suggests. A terrific weekend result for both.
LOL - you guys have Annika
She just lives here....tax reasons and weather. Inside she is a always a Swede.
Last post on Annika, as this really is Dragila:s day: Sorenstam is also a US citizen.
I'll bet some of the others in that event are now going to Eugene thinking that they're competing for one open spot on the team. And they may be right.
With all due deference to one of my favorite people in the sport (Stacy), to award anybody an automatic spot on the team after a good performance in a no-pressure, perfect conditions (and all-comers atmosphere) meet seems a bit over the top.
Perhaps you're right. But what I was thinking was how competitive she always was. She almost always performed to the best of her ability in big meets, and if she now has the ability to jump 4.70, even under the best of circumstances, I think she could be tough to keep off the team.
I was also thinking that some of the vaulters, who have never cleared 4.70 under any circumstances, will look at that mark and not consider everything you've mentioned. They'll just see a legend clearing 4.70 right before the trials and figure, oh shit--she's back and I'm going to be very happy with third place.
As with everything else having to do with the Trials, we'll soon see.
tandfman wrote:what I was thinking was how competitive she always was. She almost always performed to the best of her ability in big meets
Did not qualify for the final in the 2004 OG and 2005 WCh. In the WIC, she finished 8th in 1999, 4th in 2001 (starting as heavy favourite after a series of WRs earlier in the season) and NHed in qualifying in 2003. Yes, she has won a few major titles, but if you look at her overall career record, it's actually mixed.
Perhaps I should have said "how competitive she could be." I just assume she'll be very competitive this time. She hasn't gone through everything she's gone through to get to this point just to have fun.
I also should have added the obvious, which is that those who haven't ever cleared 4.70 include everyone in the field except Stacy and Stu.
tandfman wrote:Perhaps I should have said "how competitive she could be." I just assume she'll be very competitive this time. She hasn't gone through everything she's gone through to get to this point just to have fun.
I also should have added the obvious, which is that those who haven't ever cleared 4.70 include everyone in the field except Stacy and Stu.
I:m afraid that if she doesn:t make it back to the Olympics, the fun-well will have emptied and dried up.
Could Stacy have an off-day and NOT make the team? Ask Dan O'Brien in 1992. But I think her comeback this year has been nothing short of stupendous, considering her ongoing Achilles issues. I think the odds are mightily in her favor right now, but regardless of what the OT/OG hold for her, she is a heroine for the ages. And . . . if she does make the team and has shown such tremendous progress just in the last 2 months, could she not surprise us again and make another run at 16' and be a medal contender? Don't answer that - I already know the answer!!
If she has gotten over those injuries in that short of time, there is hope for Stefan Holm, Christian Olsson, Sanna Kallur, Linus Thörnblad, Mustafa Mohamed -- damn, who else on our Swedish team isn:t injured right now?
tandfman wrote:I also should have added the obvious, which is that those who haven't ever cleared 4.70 include everyone in the field except Stacy and Stu.
4.70 = 15-5 and as I mentioned earlier in this thread, Jillian Schwartz cleared 15-6 two weeks ago.
polevaultpower wrote:4.70 = 15-5 and as I mentioned earlier in this thread, Jillian Schwartz cleared 15-6 two weeks ago.
Was that at the Bell facility? Does USATF (or even T&FN) accept those marks, which I assume were at a 'vault-only' competition? (I ain't judging, just asking)
tandfman wrote:I also should have added the obvious, which is that those who haven't ever cleared 4.70 include everyone in the field except Stacy and Stu.
4.70 = 15-5 and as I mentioned earlier in this thread, Jillian Schwartz cleared 15-6 two weeks ago.
Before I made that post, I double checked both T&FN's list of qualifiers and pela's site and that mark was on neither.
polevaultpower wrote:4.70 = 15-5 and as I mentioned earlier in this thread, Jillian Schwartz cleared 15-6 two weeks ago.
Was that at the Bell facility? Does USATF (or even T&FN) accept those marks, which I assume were at a 'vault-only' competition? (I ain't judging, just asking)
It was outdoors at ASU presumably. No idea if there were other events.
polevaultpower wrote:4.70 = 15-5 and as I mentioned earlier in this thread, Jillian Schwartz cleared 15-6 two weeks ago.
Was that at the Bell facility? Does USATF (or even T&FN) accept those marks, which I assume were at a 'vault-only' competition? (I ain't judging, just asking)
I believe it was actually outdoors at Arkansas State (but yes, nearly all meets there are indoors). Yes, USATF and everyone else accepts marks from these meets, they are USATF sanctioned events, just like the one at Chula Vista we are talking about right now.
As for Stacy, I think one very encouraging sign is the number of jumps she took to get to 4.70. Being able to handle that many jumps is a good sign that she is back on track. (You can see the series on the link to my website that Ken Stone posted earlier in the thread).
EPelle wrote:If she has gotten over those injuries in that short of time, there is hope for Stefan Holm, Christian Olsson, Sanna Kallur, Linus Thörnblad, Mustafa Mohamed -- damn, who else on our Swedish team isn:t injured right now?
Emma Green? But she is not jumping nearly so well as last year. Johann Wisserman seems to be running pretty well, mostly 400, I think. Don't remember a 200 for him, but hell, we still don't have results from Goteborg yet, not to mention the ECup 1st & 2nd leagues. I have had trouble with the Europen-athletics site the last couple days. It is bad enough that I have resorted to the iaaf site, and that is not all that wonderful. Both are better than the usatf site tho. I missed the injury to Mohamed. Will he be able to go to Beijing?
Just went over and looked at the ECup 1 results, nice double by Wisserman, albeit the 200 was w. He's good to go.
Okay, finished looking at the results, Green got a SB 1.94 & Mohamed got around the track, ableit 8:32.61, which proably wouldn't get him out of the heats, but he got 2nd.
EPelle wrote:If she has gotten over those injuries in that short of time, there is hope for Stefan Holm, Christian Olsson, Sanna Kallur, Linus Thörnblad, Mustafa Mohamed -- damn, who else on our Swedish team isn:t injured right now?
"that short of time"?
She's been getting surgery and therapy on those injuries for 2 or 3 years now.
BTW, cool Calvin & Hobbes graphic, Mr M 8)
