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Maren Seidler Revisited

Postby gh » Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:48 am

good story on one of my all-time favorite athletes


http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/157096
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Postby cullman » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:28 am

"I came from athletic parents, and a father who always enjoyed the throwing sports," Seidler said. "He and his buddies used to throw all their implements into a big red wagon, and I'd just traipse along after them."

That's just too cool. 8)

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Postby dupontred » Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:43 pm

Loved her! One of my favorites when I was just starting to get into track and field. And ahead of her time by years here in the US.
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Postby eldrick » Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:37 pm

not wishing to rain on her parade ( & be michael richardsed ), i'd suggest that a 6'2 , presumably strapping lass, who was a 4 time olympian, shouda done better than 11th ( in a '68 pre-eastern bloc steroid-fest ) og

i presume she wasn't coached by the coaches of matson, feurbach, oldfield...
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Postby gh » Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:06 pm

eldrick wrote:not wishing to rain on her parade ( & be michael richardsed ), i'd suggest that a 6'2 , presumably strapping lass, who was a 4 time olympian, shouda done better than 11th ( in a '68 pre-eastern bloc steroid-fest ) og

i presume she wasn't coached by the coaches of matson, feurbach, oldfield...


Perhaps before you ramble on about a time period about which you clearly know little, perhaps you should do some elemental research. Seidler was all of 17 (one-seven) when she threw in Mexico City.

as for pre-Eastern Bloc steroid fest, the MC medals went at 19.61, 18.78, 18.19. Four years earlier it had taken 18.14, 17.61 and 17.45. The game was well afoot at that point.

As for her coaching, she was actually coached BY Feuerbach and Oldfield for several years (as they all basically self-coached each other in the San José training block). In hte late '70s she spent a year or so in Germany training w/ (name escapes me at the moment,but he was a throws guru who did big things w/ the WG women of the era) and made the big breakthrough of her career.
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Postby eldrick » Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:29 pm

apologies sir Image

my arithmetic abandoned me with "55y ole" & og in " '68" Image

( but i see no reason why a west german couda taught her more than 2 domesic legends ? )
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Re: Maren Seidler Revisited

Postby Brian » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:31 pm

gh wrote:good story on one of my all-time favorite athletes


http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/157096


Two for the ages: Seidler and Kathy Schmidt.

Add in throwers Big Al F. and the ever-entertaining Brian Oldfield, plus the madmen vaulters Steve Smith and Casey Carrigan---(sigh) is it just my nostalgia speaking or did athletes have more interesting personalities before corporate sponsorship of individuals got folks worrying about their image...?
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Postby George Matthews » Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:37 am

Re Maren Seidler's sojourn in West Germany, wasn't the coach who took on Seidler's training Christian Gehrmann? He trained Claudia Losch into a 22metre plus thrower and also the pentathlete Eva Wilms into a 21.40 something putter too. They both threw for the LAC Quelle Furth club where Gehrmann was a long-time habitue.
Echoing Brian's sentiments on athletes of that era and repeating what i said on the earlier Steve Williams thread, i concur that there was more individuality around in those days. Name me a quote worthy athlete of this modern era to match up with those guys, only Asafa Powell and Adam Nelson spring to mind.
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Postby Brian » Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:43 pm

George Matthews wrote:Echoing Brian's sentiments on athletes of that era and repeating what i said on the earlier Steve Williams thread, i concur that there was more individuality around in those days. Name me a quote worthy athlete of this modern era to match up with those guys, only Asafa Powell and Adam Nelson spring to mind.


And then the ironic part: the media (and then sposnors) DIVE on anybody who goes outside the cookie cutter mold!

This sport would be a lot more popular with some outgoing personalities in it nowadays. There are a lot of good and decent people, but you need that Pre/Salazar speak your mind thing in order to generate interest.

The down side, of course, is that most modern athletes don't know how to be interesting without doing off-putting (to most adults and nearly all sponsors) trash-talk.

I actually thought Beau Greer (Nelson's buddy/collegue) would be the media "savior" of the modern field events, but injury--and yes, possible overwelming ignorance of his event by the general populace--has kept him out of the main spotlight.
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Postby dukehjsteve » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:30 pm

Greer may be someone's beau, but his first name is Breaux.
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Postby gh » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:46 pm

George Matthews wrote:Re Maren Seidler's sojourn in West Germany, wasn't the coach who took on Seidler's training Christian Gehrmann? He trained Claudia Losch into a 22metre plus thrower and also the pentathlete Eva Wilms into a 21.40 something putter too. They both threw for the LAC Quelle Furth club where Gehrmann was a long-time habitue..


yes, that was he (Wilkins and Feuerbach used to use his place as a summer base)
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Postby Brian » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:38 am

dukehjsteve wrote:Greer may be someone's beau, but his first name is Breaux.


Ed McMahon impression: "You are correct, sir! HAHAHAHAHAH!!"

[And thanks.]
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Postby nianchengyu » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:21 am

[quote="George Matthews"]Re Maren Seidler's sojourn in West Germany, wasn't the coach who took on Seidler's training Christian Gehrmann? He trained Claudia Losch into a 22metre plus thrower and also the pentathlete Eva Wilms into a 21.40 something putter too. They both threw for the LAC Quelle Furth club where Gehrmann was a long-time habitue.
could you give me some infor about Christian Gehrmann?when he trained eva wilms in 1973,flying improvement for eva,how strange he can coach all-around and throwing events, :shock:
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